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Old 11-Aug-2005, 06:28 PM
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In Singapore, ranchus seldom live past 4 years. I have not been able to raise a goldfish/ranchu for more than 4 years. If the ranchu have to peak at Oya, then I will never get to see them in their prime. Thus a long body ranchu may not be relevant in Singapore's context. What are your views.


With our team helping you out, I do not think that this will be true for much longer, Bro.
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Old 11-Aug-2005, 06:28 PM
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Thanks Geert for this very enlightening information. The big problem here is the more you know, the more you realised that there are many many more things you don't know.


This is why our Ranchu hobby is so beautiful !

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Old 11-Aug-2005, 06:30 PM
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Hi AbsoluteRanchu, can you elaborate on the above pls? Does it mean length of head to length of body is 1:1 ? I don't think this is the meaning.


Please check the pictures that I have posted in the "Hi, there" thread on the first page. That thread I have covered the proper standard of ranchu. You will find a picture of a fish with three circles on them, which will help you to visualize the proper concept of proportion of TVRs: One-to-One-to-One.
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Old 11-Aug-2005, 06:39 PM
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Hello Pat,

Yes, I am happy with my breeding season 2005. And, I believe (hope) the best is yet to come. I still have some secret weapons which I hide until the time is right...

Regards,

Geert Coppens


I am so happy to hear that you are doing well. You are a great example for all the hobbyists here to realize that you can breed ranchu successfully where ever you are, as long as you are resourcesful, seeking knowledge, and never rest on the success of the past. To go by some of your babies that I have seen thus far, your secret weapon should be quite a sight.

We are at the beginning stage of our first breeding season this year. I hope to be able to cultivate some secret weapon of our own soon. I have recently been consulting with Mr. Aod Koban of the Jaran Group, and he has been most forth coming in sharing some pointers concerning water management for the breeding season. It has been most illuminating, and it also taught me that there are still, so much to figure out.

I wish you the best luck this year, and I look forward to seeing more of your beautiful fish when you see fit to show them for us.

ps. We are all very lucky that we have Geert in our forum to share with us his most valuable knowledge on Ranchu in Japan.

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Old 11-Aug-2005, 06:53 PM
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With our team helping you out, I do not think that this will be true for much longer, Bro.


Not to mention, we have the opportunity to get better quality Japanese ranchus thru you. Thus we would treasure our ranchus even more. This would in a way increase their lifespan with more care and attention.
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Old 11-Aug-2005, 07:40 PM
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Not to mention, we have the opportunity to get better quality Japanese ranchus thru you. Thus we would treasure our ranchus even more. This would in a way increase their lifespan with more care and attention.


Thank you for the kind words. I know the feeling of having a really nice fish that I have molded and shape myself. We are so lucky that we live in a time when many Japanese breeders are more keen to help with the development of the ranchu hobby and culture abroad. Without their most invaluable help and support, we would all still be fighting over the few fish that leave Japanese shores every year. I think the thanks should go to Master Kashino, Mita, Oishi, Takao, Kawai, Katou, and many others that have lent a hand in the past.

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Old 12-Aug-2005, 12:39 AM
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Please check the pictures that I have posted in the "Hi, there" thread on the first page. That thread I have covered the proper standard of ranchu. You will find a picture of a fish with three circles on them, which will help you to visualize the proper concept of proportion of TVRs: One-to-One-to-One.

Thanks, but I think it's difficult to gauge using such circles as unclear where a circle is to start and when to end I think it's easier to gauge by considering ratio of head length to body length; but the best way is to observe overall whether the Ranchu is balanced as mentioned before
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I do not make the rules. I am merely passing along knowledge that was taught to me by Japanese judges, during competition. The standard is a Japanese standard, and an international one. You can use the same principle and apply to any fish that you can find. If the three circles are the same size then you have a nice fish. You can try it with your fish you have at home and compare with the many champion TVRs which I have posted already.

If you are serious about competition in accordance with the Nichiran standard, you will have to follow the Japanese rules and judment, that's just the way it is. You may like different kind of fish, does not mean that you are wrong, it just mean that you are not interested in the proper top view competition and you rather go on your own way. You may even have quite a few people who agree with you, and you can get them all together and form a club which like similar kind of fish. This is, not by any way, wrong, it is just not following international competition ranchu standard.

There are also clubs in Japan that raise different types of ranchu that are not the modern standards. I believe that around the Osaka area, there are many breeders who are breeding ranchu that resemblance the older style ranchu in Japan. The fish are a little bit more rounded, the wen is extroadinary large, but the tail does not have the usual shoulder on the tail as most modern ranchu. They are beautiful, but I find it very difficult to compare it to the other bloodlines that I am used to.

Any how, you could disregard the standards, but it will be difficult to try to guage your own development against the best breeders from Japan and the other breeders around the world.

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