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Ranchu Lover 13-Jul-2005 11:35 AM

Ranchu shape
 
I started the TVR hobby some 14 months ago. I got a taste of ranchu almost 40 years ago. Those were probably Singapore breed ones that never grow big.

You see I grew up with the idea that a ranchu should have a short and rounded body. This "pui pui" (fat fat) notation stayed with me until recently even when I started this TVR hobby. Till date, no one has given me a satisfactory answer. Should a ranchu have a long and slender body or not. This is surely one question that I am going to ask the workshop leaders.

As a preview to the workshop, I think discussion like this will help us be more prepared to ask questions.

Any Comments?

heng_alex 13-Jul-2005 01:15 PM

My opinion
 
HI RL,

I thought there were some standards of ranchu posted by a few bros and you as well. head to body ratio of 1:3 or something like that. GOing by that sort of standards, i guess the ranchu will turn out to be quite long. The pui pui sort is probably the SV ones?... well, i am not sure..

kitsilano 13-Jul-2005 01:34 PM

Just to add on...I was shocked to look at bettas.....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchu Lover
I started the TVR hobby some 14 months ago. I got a taste of ranchu almost 40 years ago. Those were probably Singapore breed ones that never grow big.

You see I grew up with the idea that a ranchu should have a short and rounded body. This "pui pui" (fat fat) notation stayed with me until recently even when I started this TVR hobby. Till date, no one has given me a satisfactory answer. Should a ranchu have a long and slender body or not. This is surely one question that I am going to ask the workshop leaders.

As a preview to the workshop, I think discussion like this will help us be more prepared to ask questions.

Any Comments?


I was at Rainbow after 9/11...kinda walking around on a boring sunday afternoon and omg saw some crown bettas...shocked that the fighting fish that I used to catch from the "peu toh" pond now shaped like this and saw some halfmoon on the net...my eyes went bonkers...time really changed.

I think when you look at the conformation standard for any fish breed, there is the aestatic portion which I like to call standing portion...just the physical attributes and then the moving portion...how powerful or graceful the swimming pattern. I think the changes of the ranchu from the round round to the longer type is more to do with the swimming gracefulness that can be appreciated and owners can compete for in show. The notion that a good ranchu should look like a sumo wrestler literally dictate that the ranchu must be broad, slightly longer and yet robust.

Regards


Kitsilano

Ranchu Lover 13-Jul-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by heng_alex
HI RL,

I thought there were some standards of ranchu posted by a few bros and you as well. head to body ratio of 1:3 or something like that. GOing by that sort of standards, i guess the ranchu will turn out to be quite long. The pui pui sort is probably the SV ones?... well, i am not sure..

I have heard of this ratio thing in the form of 3 circles right? But then when you look at the Yokozuna that I posted in another thread, the three circles thing does not seems to apply. Frankly, I am still a "senior newbie". Kind of a like BMT second part only. Still don't know the battle formation yet.

dogcom 13-Jul-2005 07:03 PM

I think I know the feeling and how apt "senior newbie". The more you learn the more you realise how much more you don't know.....kekeke :p

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchu Lover
I have heard of this ratio thing in the form of 3 circles right? But then when you look at the Yokozuna that I posted in another thread, the three circles thing does not seems to apply. Frankly, I am still a "senior newbie". Kind of a like BMT second part only. Still don't know the battle formation yet.

heng_alex 13-Jul-2005 11:58 PM

Hmm... ic ic..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchu Lover
I have heard of this ratio thing in the form of 3 circles right? But then when you look at the Yokozuna that I posted in another thread, the three circles thing does not seems to apply. Frankly, I am still a "senior newbie". Kind of a like BMT second part only. Still don't know the battle formation yet.


Well I guess it is like appreciating art.. sometimes.. I really dun understand why certain art pieces are considered master pieces and some are not?? :)

yamato38gunkei 14-Jul-2005 12:39 AM

I would say forget the "head to body ratio of 1:3". I think the keywoord is "balance".

The body should be long, wide and strong ; not fat ! You see the picture :) ? Not so easy, I know. Try to study many photos and videos of good Ranchu.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

antonioshabirto 14-Jul-2005 12:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yamato38gunkei
I would say forget the "head to body ratio of 1:3". I think the keywoord is "balance".

The body should be long, wide and strong ; not fat ! You see the picture :) ? Not so easy, I know. Try to study many photos and videos of good Ranchu.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

my fishes are all long and fat .... does dieting works for them .... will they get back to shape.... i guess i overfed them .... any remedy for such cases...


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