Hi there guys/gals.

I may not be an expert, but both the cases are withdrawal symptoms.

The tend to be bonded to a particular thing/person and are pressured into abnormal behavior in these circumstances after withdrawal.

I have heard from overseas owners, [my buddies] that if the sitiuation is not addressed immediately after the incident[ what the parrots were taken to ] the sitiuation is irreversible.

In these circumstance a period of cold turkey from touch is advised.

They do have "teenage" periods when one thing is take from them they rebel.

One month is a good measure to be advised from touching, talking and contact with these affected birds.

After that constant touch and affection will bring them back to normal behavioral patterns.

Always note that they do live at/or around the normal human age expentancy thus they do have periods of withdrawal and love.

In a shorter message, stop touching them and fussing over them let them get over it.

I own two african grey's who currently live in "Gelang Patah" [ Malaysia's Port = PSA] my work Place and both are 4 year old and are very much teenagers.

I hope this helps.

God Bless.

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