Just been told by a friend that your male parent bird "Vietkong" is a "wild bird" from a part of the country in South Vietnam known for very good shamas and your female parent bird "Meenah" is a "wild bird" from NNW peninsula Malaysia also from a place well known for good shamas. Congratulations again Andrew for being the first this part of the world to breed shamas with a pair of parent birds from these 2 countries. Also for your pioneering spirit to breed from something new instead of being like other "copycat" breeders using good genes developed by others.