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Old 24-Jul-2005, 11:31 PM
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TVR Competition/Workshop 2005

There is a plan for a TVR Competition cum workshop in Singapore to be held some time at the end of this year. Tentatively the Judges are Master Oishi and Master Kashino.

We would like to seek feed-back and suggestions for the Competition and also the Workshop to be conducted by Master Kashino and Master Oishi during this period.

The competition and workshop will be opened to all including our counterparts from neighbouring countries.

We hope that with future workshops and Competitions that will be judged by Japanese ranchu experts, that this will bring our TVR appreciation standards to be in accordance with the All Japan Ranchu Standard. We are also hoping to raise the standard of ranchu appreciation in Singapore.

We are hoping that this will further increase the number of TVR hobbyist by many fold in Singapore.


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Old 25-Jul-2005, 04:11 PM
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Just a suggestion

Hi just reposting what I wrote in another forum.

I noticed that in previous Yuhua competition some participants brought their ranchus and shipped them in the night before the competition to compete.

I gathered from the talk yesterday that ranchu competitions are actually meant to be a gauge of your own skills in nuturing the fish, I'll like to suggest that participants in this competition should have owned and cared for the competition fish for a period of time in order to participate. e.g.

1. Tosai - Owned and nutured the fish for at least 3 months or more.
2. Nisai - Owned and nutured the fish for at least 6 months or more.
3. Oya - Owned and nutured the fish for at least 1 year or more.

I know its unenforceable, but maybe there can be some sort of personal declaration in the entry forms. This could possibly meant that standard of competition fishes maybe lower (controvesy) but if such competitions continue over a period of time the general standard of Singapore kept ranchus in local Singapore competition could possibly improve.

Fishes not meeting the above suggested criteria and those by overseas participants should be possibly in a separate open or foriegn catergory.

This is just a suggestion for the organsiers to consider - don't wish for a long debate to happen.

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Old 25-Jul-2005, 05:00 PM
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Hi just reposting what I wrote in another forum.

I noticed that in previous Yuhua competition some participants brought their ranchus and shipped them in the night before the competition to compete.

I gathered from the talk yesterday that ranchu competitions are actually meant to be a gauge of your own skills in nuturing the fish, I'll like to suggest that participants in this competition should have owned and cared for the competition fish for a period of time in order to participate. e.g.

1. Tosai - Owned and nutured the fish for at least 3 months or more.
2. Nisai - Owned and nutured the fish for at least 6 months or more.
3. Oya - Owned and nutured the fish for at least 1 year or more.

I know its unenforceable, but maybe there can be some sort of personal declaration in the entry forms. This could possibly meant that standard of competition fishes maybe lower (controvesy) but if such competitions continue over a period of time the general standard of Singapore kept ranchus in local Singapore competition could possibly improve.

Fishes not meeting the above suggested criteria and those by overseas participants should be possibly in a separate open or foriegn catergory.

This is just a suggestion for the organsiers to consider - don't wish for a long debate to happen.
Your suggestions are taken. I was wondering, how about some people to volunteer to form a comittee to administer this Competition and Workshop. This way the controversy will be reduced. Instead of me getting all the blame, some of you guys can volunteer to help form this comittee.

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Old 25-Jul-2005, 07:26 PM
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It will be difficult for me to know when my competitors in Thailand, acquire their fish, since the competition ranchu trading in Thailand is quite a secret (the same as in Japan too). Even when the fish enters and wins a competition, you may not know who the real owners of the fish are. Usually in Thailand only for the big trophies, such as the King's Cup are where you will see all the real owners of the Champions. This is just an opinion from my experience in the Thai ranchu circle.

I think that since this is a Japanese styled ranchu competition, we should do exactly what they do in Japan, or as dictated by the distinquished judges. With all due respect.

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Old 25-Jul-2005, 09:37 PM
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Geert Coppens,
Maybe you can let us know how TVR competition is conducted at your region.
Thanks.
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I think it is better not to make too many rules.

Let the people decide for themselves if they prefer to win with a Ranchu they developed themselves or with a Ranchu that they just bought. Soon they will learn that it is much more rewarding to win with a Ranchu that they developed or bred themselves.

Even in Japan, some people participate to big shows with Ranchu they just bought. Cfr. East Ozeki Oya and East Ozeki Nisai from Okayama Ranchu Show were sold and their new owner showed them at the AJRS 2004 a few weeks later.

This is my opinion.


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Old 26-Jul-2005, 02:35 AM
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I concurr with Geert. For breeders, the honour is in competing with the fish that they bred. Most breeders will look to bring honour to themselves, their family and their Kai (clubs). Many enthusiasts in Japan can afford to buy Champions fish worth millions of yen, but I personally do not considered these type of enthusiasts to be of the same level as successful breeders that win with their own bred fish. For masters, caretaking is already second nature to them.
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Old 26-Jul-2005, 10:32 AM
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My experience

Let me share with all my one and only experience with ranchu competition. I started the TVR some 16 months ago and was hoping for a competition. The only one that I knew was the Ozeki one held every year on the 1st of January. It is however it is not open to public.

Being a newbie, I had difficulty telling a genuine Japanese ranchu from other breed. As with most of us, the only affordable option was a Thai import. Almost every weekend is spent ranchu hunting all over Singapore. One day, I saw 5 ranchus that was left from a brood of about 100 ranchus that were snapped up over the last 2 months or so ago. I saw this particular piece that was long body with no funtan development and with a double hump camels back. The only thing that strikes me then was its beautiful scales and full yellow body. That was in November 2004. Lets call this ranchu A.

When announcements of the Yuhua CC Ranchu competition 2005 was announced, I got excited and started to look for competition ranchus to enter. Japan was out of the question because of price and winter. So the other options was Thai ranchu. Through a LFS, I bought 6 pieces of competition grade Junior Tosai. This was one week before the All Thailand Ranchu Show (ATRS) in February 2005. Three of the ranchus were entered for the competition and they won 4th, 7th, and 9th positions. Immediately after the competition, the ranchus were sent over to Singapore and I received it on a Tuesday, 5 days before the Yuhua competition.

All the 6 pieces were entered for the Yuhua competition including ranchu A. When the results were announced, one of my Junior Tosai got 3rd (not any of the winners from the ATRS) and my ranchu A got 5th position.

The greatest happiness for me was ranchu A and not the one with 3rd placing. The thrill of winning with someone else's effort did not give me satisfaction.

I am now looking forward to entering one of the offspring from ranchu A for the next competition.

Competition will sharpen our grooming skills and meeting with fellow "kakis" will also help us keep the interest in this hobby going. I am looking forward to meeting the masters in this hobby particularly Master Kashino whom I have admire since I started this hobby. It is what you make out of this hobby that counts.

P/s: Ranchu A is the one you see in my avatar.

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